WebSupport the RFP Donations are a great way to help keep the RFP on-air and furthering our mission to help and encourage those whose lives have been negatively affected by Everyone knew this was a farce. We have a few mutual friends. They never truly loved me to begin with if they can't handle yours truly being truly apathetic about everything church supposedly offers them when said church acts as if someone like me doesn't exist just because I don't give 10% of my income to a group of organizations I know to be abusive and to be incompetent at best and outright hostile to someone like yours truly and his Asperger's. Im trying to figure out if it was worse of me for not using scripture to answer your question, which btw is not a question that required scripture, or yanking a handful of verses completely out of context as you did. But it seems bottom line the wealth & sacrifce of it to kingdom building remains the same. Finally, I think you have some anger issues. Jesus was prophesied in the old testament. The pastor followed up with me with a long phone call, and that is when we began to discuss the baptism issue, he was very cordial and we simply agreed to disagree, which is probably what you and I will have to do. 1:6-10, 1 Tim. Henry Jacob. Although, they were not as corrupt as the Church of England, they still practiced a strict ritual of church service, a state church, and among other things, infant baptism. G.L. Anderson and other New IFB pastors have praised the Orlando gay nightclub shooting. Wed love to hear about it! If someone wanted to Tithe down to a tenth of all they owned & sell or give value of itIm sure they could. Independent What gets my goat on this style of preaching is that as much as these baptists act as though they follow nothing but the scripture, it seems they dont read it or study it much. Further, suppose that a Bible somehow was to fall from the plane and the inhabitants of this isolated land were to be able to pick up that Bible and read the text for themselves. After working for a few hours in our home, the Dish tech stopped working and looked at me asking, Am I correct in believing this is a Christian home I am working in? I said yes. The first Baptist church in New York was started by William Wichendon, in 1656. It is my conviction that this is contrary to the very foundation of what is a true New Testament church. So the the issue is that there has to be a Biblical standard for dress. Most Baptist churches were in the past founded on the sound doctrinal teachings of the New Testament, however, many of them have in varying degrees drifted away from many of the teachings of the Scriptures. But I dont self-identify as a Baptist any longer, I simply say that Im a christian. Being to poor to pay the fines he was banished from the colony. Men meeting the Biblical qualification of deacons (servants) (1 Tim. It holds high the saving Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, as revealed in the New Testament and an unwavering commitment to carrying out the Great Commission, that is, to teach everywhere the truth of Gods Word. You are doing exactly what Mark 7:7 speaks against, you are teaching false doctrines and commandments of men. My sons group will be performing on the Indie stage at 10:00 am on July 1. Seamus on Twitter: "RT @reachjulieroys: A 8. It is surely an affront to any historically informed Baptist identify him by the name of a group that has so hated and persecuted them down throughout history. Remember new testament christians are never compelled to give mandatory gifts, if you have been taught that, you have been taught wrong. 8) forbid lifting of hands during the service, some of the IFB churches are more lenient on this matter that others. ), and maybe even stand up and shout if the Lord really touches their heart, Sorry that you had a bad experience, but not all IFB churches are alike, and mine is great! The old testement tithes went to the Levite priests to support them (Numbers 18). He did not fail to share truth although He was not yet crucifiedso likewise I argue that since He said it should not have been left undoneHe meant what He says as He shared the fuller meaning I believe of the Laws. Tithing is a good thing to do & I believe God can be glorified if done with right heart, intent & purporses. Benedict in his history of the Baptists states the Gospel was preached in Britain within sixty years of the Lords return to heaven. Twin Cities Baptist Church Im referring to a mistake I made in my fairly long comment, which you may not have seen yet, once you do youll understand I was correcting a statement in my next to last paragraph. Register for events, receive notifications, read devotionals, watch or listen to recent sermons, and more. In Europe, Protestant churches are state churches and supported to some degree by government imposed taxes. Feel free to send me a facebook message. I dont understand the context of your comment. What youre experiencing is absolutely normal and it gets easier with time. Therefore if a church is teaching Tithe is mandatory or sin if not donethey are I believe in error. I'm fine with churches being independent from a hierarchy, I'm staunchly a believer of the actual Fundamentals of the Faith, and I'm an active member of a Baptist church. Im calling into question yourreasoning as to why you are defending your belief about tithing. That made them in the eyes of God as legitimate a church as any Paul founded. I hope you can forgive me for perpetuating those stumbling blocks. And Im so glad for the Great Is Thy Faithfulness versefavorite song! 7) divorce as the unpardonable sin you can be forgiven if you kill someone, or if you have been saved from a homosexual lifestyle, but God help you if you have been divorced, they will still let you come to the meetings but you have to set on the back row. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day., Based on the Word of God, I submit to you that Gods plan will not be thwarted because I fail to do something. Bj just leave and dont look back! Even if a church blows the interpretation of verses like this and sets up what you refer to as a hierarchy, I feel you are in error to claim that God has no party with them, see for reference the 7 churches in Revelation which had great things going for them, but Christ had to deal with their errors. all churches that support tithingtithe a tenth of their income to building Gods kingdom. Yelling, storytelling, and moralism replaced proclaiming simply what God has said. Williams graduated from Cambridge University in 1627, and was apparently ordained in the Church of England. When our preaching goes backward, the whole apple cart rocks and soon turns over. I commented that some of the teen girls were dressed entirely innappropriately with tiny shorts, which were very immodest, so there certainly should be a standard for modesty. Do you think you can bring others to Christ in this manner? (P.S. The pastor is a self-taught, good man. I also believe that hanging around with non-Christians is detrimental to ones faith as I have done this. For example when Jesus said to not store up treasures on earth where they would persih but in HeavenI believe Hes refering to at least in part some Godly endeavors (that often take money)that we do for His namesake. There is every value in appealing only to present adherence to the New Testament as ones sole authority for faith and practice. Rachael God bless you!! Smyth, believed the only real apostolic succession is a succession of Biblical New Testament truth, and not of outward ordinances and visible organization such as the Church of England or the Roman Church. They were intolerant to anyone who did not agree to the authority of the Puritan church, which was supported by a governmental church tax of all the people. 3) tell you what to wear (John the Baptist probably wouldnt be allowed in most IFB churches I feel silly because some of the things I stood up for on this site are the same things that made me leave. This is the largest christian gathering in the U.S. attracting more than 100,000 last year. I would love to chat further!!! God bless. No new testament christian anywhere in scripture, that I know of, is compelled to give a tithe. Nor can I know the heart of those I preach to. Lynne, I, for one, am glad you wont post here again after that comment, but I hope you will at least read this, although Im not holding my breath. I think Lynne has been fed a large dose of legalism, and just cant seem to escape it. Roger Williams is credited with founding the first Baptist church on American soil. I agree! For a while you feel as if youre floundering, and its difficult when you are accustomed to 100% guidance and direction in your life, and suddenly its up to you, and God. 3:8-13) are appointed from the local congregation and approved by the majority vote. I would love to know your thoughts on the matter. Wonderful #zoology themed #picturebook full of #rhyming, This swim team mom stuff is a lot more involved than I expected. Thier is nothing harmful in regard sto relating to other denominations if ny that you mean fellowships that are Christian. To fulfill something as in Jesus fulfilled the law means that it is satisfied, meaning that it is no longer needed. He can make it without out $$$, but we need to learn to let go of it. I understand what you are saying by the verses you referenced in John. Why, because it was founded on Gods Word and there is no necessity that it have contact with some other church which belongs to a succession of churches. "[3], The New IFB was formed by Anderson and other Baptist pastors in 2017 in an attempt to revive what they perceived older independent Baptist churches once represented. We must agree with John Smyth, the true New Testament church is founded on its belief and practice of the Scriptures, and not on any outward succession of a visible or invisible organization. WebSerious inquiry. is there any Independent Fundamental Baptist church preachers on Twitter?? In reference to the quote you took it wasi n explanation in regards to another point poised regarding tithing a tenth of income vs. actual agriculture and/or stock as the Jews did back thenand it was in a common sense response to the rhetoric regarding why tithe a tenth of income vs possesions being sold, etc is done by most churche sin Usa & other developed nations. Thank you for writing back. I cannot judge this man. The form is submitted along with the recommendations of other Calvary Chapel clergymen. in time you will feel the freedom that you have gained. And only imagination could describe what his mind and soul was experiencing. We had a new family move into the church about a year ago and they have pretty much taken over along with our youth pastors family. The center of Baptist activity in the colonies was in the Philadelphia area, and Baptists held regular general meetings of the churches for devotional and evangelistic purposes there. That saintly old woman in the pew may be depending upon her infant baptism to get her to heaven. True Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches uphold the purest teachings of the early church as revealed in the New Testament. And as long as we allow people into churches, Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Southern Baptist or IFB there are going to be problems. (I do love acapella singing, btw.). I felt distant from God and I felt distant from my Bible. The Anabaptists were mostly a God-fearing group of people. Fundamental Independent Baptists church will remain separate from these churches as well as other Baptists groups who participate with the unscriptural churches. We exist to help and encourage those whose lives have been negatively affected by fundamentalist legalism in the church and to challenge those who promote tradition over Scripture. They direct their own affairs under the authority of the New Testament Scriptures, free from the outside interference. Wonderful response and so very true!! In answer your assumptions about me. New Episodes drop Wednesdays at Midnight! Sometimes I feel really sorry for those who are more heavily entrenched than I wasthe pastors kids, and other children who are raised in that mentality, church three times a week, being sent to Bible college (ostensibly for education, but, lets face facts, a lot of it is to find a Godly spouse who firmly embraces the IFB mentality), etc.. Lack of pastoral accountability is not the problem. We finally left and joined a non-demoninational that has really opened my eyes to authentic worship and what its supposed to be like. He said he could tell because I had a joyful spirit. In my civilian life..and please do pray for our military..I am very honored to serve as Senior Pastor of Coral Ridge in Jacksonville (FL). Hope youll check it out. In response to the concerns, After Jesus preached, He then told Simon to launch out into the deep for a great haul of fish. In order to distinguish between the doctrinally unsound Baptist churches and those that believed the Bible many Baptist churches changed their name. Anyhow he screamed through most of it (funny I never see Jesus screaming at folks, particularly His followers) told some fantastic tales, not saying he was lying, but, well you know what I mean. THE BEGINNINGS OF THE BAPTISTS IN AMERICA. p.s. As a matter of fact, you cannot be a member of a Calvary Chapel. It stands for devotion and a strict obedience to God and his commandments. Your use of scripture only shows your ignorance of it. May God bless Bob. But this article simply exposes the Baptist system as just another denomination among tens of thousands. They will not participate, on a church basis, or any outside function with churches which do not also strictly base their faith and practice on the New Testament. else here raised Independent Fundamental Baptist 13:17, Acts 20:28, Eph. Some of these churches have gone so far to even deny the fundamental teachings of the Bible, such as the deity of Christ, the virgin birth and salvation by the Grace of God, through faith. I have been around the blogosphere enough to know that there are a lot of people wandering in this wilderness. Baptist Off the top of my head, I can think of 7-8 divorced couples in our church right now (and we only have around 150 in regular attendance) Two champions of religious liberty were the Virginians Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry. I thought that this was the passage you were referring to. One man Hanserd Knolleys, is an example of dissenter of the Church of England who had to flee to America. -, Safety in the comfortable cocoon of fundamentalism -, Spiritual warfare and special needs: "Remember who you battle." I just have a question. Religion & Read all (mor ethan on epost under name Lynne). Over the course of 2 1/2 months, I publicly shared more about the days I spent torn between legalism and grace. My study of the word psalms is that it includes singing with a musical instrument. No, you arent crazy. This site and others consistently speak about folks that follow and uplift man, in my faith I want only to lift up the God-man!! Before the America won its independence and the Constitution became law, the Episcopal church, which was the American branch of the Church of England, was the only legal church in Virginia. https://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/hyles_effect.php. We were stationed at Fort Hood in 2008 and my husband was also deployed. I grew as a missionary child to a family in the Rock of Ages and attended Dogwood Valley Baptist Church. A nother reason why I am convinced that the average fundamental Baptist church will be well down the emerging path within 20 years is the prevalence of soft separatism. Soft separatism is a separatism that is ineffective to protect the Lords people from spiritual dangers. It takes time to get over all the brainwashing of the IFB but over time you will learn to recognize it for what it really is, which is control. There are a number of other wrong teachings w/in this church but the false teaching about baptism is far and away the biggest, some of the others are, not believing in eternal security, and close behind is not believing that one can know that you are saved. Many churches by this time had come under the domination of the Rome government and had ceased from being New Testament churches. So I wonder again is this God desire or your thing? 5. The charge recorded against him was that he broached and divulged new and dangerous opinions against the authority of the magistrates. Hah Im really the only reply to this incredible read?! However, the churches are united by a number of doctrines. And I dont study my Bible enough and would say no one does. I went to and IFB Bible college (Fellowship Baptist College at the Averyville Baptist Church in E. Peoria, IL) and then to a second Baptist Bible college, Maranatha Baptist Bible College in Watertown, Wisconsin. Part 8:finding healing and freedom in secular music, Part 9:I will keep believing that God still has a plan, Part 12:Disconnect: when God just doesnt seem relevant, Part 13:Roses in the dumpster: seeing God in everyday life, Part 16:Checklists, control, and motherhood, Part 17:forget where you should be and give God your ugly, Part 18:When your church isnt meeting your needs, Part 19:on being in your place in church, Part 20:when your spiritual journey doesnt look like his, Part 22:There are no entry level positions with God, Part 23:Sitting on the premises sometimes, its okay not to serve, Part 25:You are God, You are God, Of all else Im letting go!, Part 28:My motivation: chosen, holy, and dearly loved, Part 29:what grace is not: the pendulum and sinning that grace may abound, Part 30:From legalism into grace: one mans story, Part 31: Grace in the wilderness: the blessings of legalism, SEQUEL SERIES (20 posts and counting): Grace: How a Recovering Legalist Moves Forward in Faith. If a Millennial wants a non-denominational, evangelical They believe that when the Book of Revelation was completed by the Apostle John about 90-95 AD, the Word of God was complete. BTW, my Church of Christ neighbor and I were good friends, and looked out for each other. What I want to know is this typical of someone raised IFB or am I crazy? IFB churches are not the problem. For the next eight months, Pastor Adams and Pastor McFeters worked together as Co-Pastors to complete the transition of leadership. Anyone not holding Episcopal ordination was forbade to hold services. Julia Randazzo on Twitter: "Serious inquiry. is there any He was heavily fined and then imprisoned. teaching that all sex is dirty, etc..), I see no sense in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Also, and Im not sure how to word this question properly, but during the building of the original NT church as described in Acts and further in the rest of the NT, wouldnt they have had to subscribe to some form of outside authority and control in order for the church to be formed? I had been attending this IFB for about 30 years. As Pastor Scott McFeters and Greater Portland Baptist Church move into this new phase of ministry, we believe the fields are still ripe for the harvest in the greater Portland area.
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